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How can you make a cheap cigar plug (12V accessory plug) conduct 10A continuously without melting. Not like this!
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16 thoughts on “Cheap cigar plug melts at 10a”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars john shaw says:

    Too much current and not enough contact area=Thermal runaway.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars greaser5691 says:

    Wondering why noting that there was reduced power draw with the cutoff device inserted didn't give a 'hmmmmmmm moment'.. ๐Ÿ™‚

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Chris W says:

    Your solder wick has no flux. Did you use it with flux or dry?

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars KuusamoMart says:

    I've just dismantled a car USB 3.0 charger that blew the 20A fuse in the car; it turns out that the +ve connection is a turned metal part that connects to the PCB via a spring; the spring isn't retained on the PCB, but is threaded through a piece of metal soldered to the PCB. In order to save space, the designer put an electrolytic cap directly behind the piece of metal such that, if the spring rotated, it threaded further into the metal plate and contacted the capacitor; eventually, it split the sleeve on the cap and contacted the metal case which is not isolated, and shorted the 12V supply.
    The quick fix was to cut a small piece of Mylar and put it between the cap and the metal piece so that the spring cannot contact the cap.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars adam j says:

    So much cheap and dangerous 12v items have flooded the market everywhere. I had a friend who bought a cigarette socket adapter that melted only charging a phone, as a result burnt his vehicle out.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars AsilarWindsailor says:

    Greetings Mr.Julian, I wanted to know what your thoughts were on this little guy here I found on ebay from seller Frentaly: [Apparently I Youtube won't let me comment with links]
    Fully Assembled DSO138 2.4" TFT Digital Oscilloscope by seller Frentaly

    I would like to have my own full sized oscilloscope but the price tag is a bit of a deterrent at the moment and I happened to stumble across this one here so I got it to see if I can make heads or tails of some toys I'm tinkering with. It seems to work well enough but I'm no expert so I thought I'd ask someone I think would know!

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mark 1024MAK says:

    Iโ€™ve got, err, had a plug like that. I would rate it at only 2A maximum. And yes, the problem is the steel spring.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Roman Charak says:

    Julian, if you shorten the spring – that would reduce the resistance and the tension. That is my hypothesis.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Roland Elliott says:

    10A destruction on a chinesium automotive plug is expected. nothing new.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mywindow says:

    Run the copper wick thru the spring but, solder 1 end directly to the terminal or wire and solder the other end to a small washer between the spring and fuse.

    tldr: Give the current another path to travel besides the spring.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jay Herde says:

    The solder wick wrapping around the spring ends made the spring too long? Try soldering the wick to the inside of the spring (maybe where the spring wire ends). Try to keep the solder to the first two coils of the spring where there isn't any/much springyness. Then, trim the wick flush with the spring and smooth up the spring ends. Might be a good idea to loosen the wick braiding to break the dry flux where it's not soldered to the spring.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars James Holbrook says:

    On mine usually the spring probably heats up and shrinks compressed so it stays short

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars darkknight145 says:

    It's possible that the heat was actually being generated in the fuse and being transferred to the spring (need to bring out your thermal camera).
    I've never had any luck with these types of plugs from electronics type stores and eBay, but the ones that I've purchased from Car parts stores have been great, they are much sturdier and made with higher quality parts, which also makes them a bit bigger.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars The Lightning Stalker says:

    I've had this happen before as well. Apparently there was still some current traveling through the spring. I don't know if taking something like the ends of a fuse and putting it over the ends of the spring and soldering the braid to it will work or not.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hola! Maico says:

    after seeing Clive using braid (wick) I got some from Ali but it also fails

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Builder Dex says:

    I got those same cheap plugs. I got the same melting problem.

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